Full-Time Faculty
SARAH ABRAMOWITZ - CHAIR OF BUSINESS
John H. Evans Professor of Statistics and Chair of the Departments of Business and of Mathematics and Computer Science
Contact: [email protected] | (973)408-3346 | HS 312
Courses taught
- Introductory Statistics
- Intermediate Statistics
- Sports Statistics
- Drew Seminar
Sarah Abramowitz earned a BA in Mathematics from Cornell University, an MS in Mathematics from the State University of New York at Stony Brook, and a PhD in Mathematics Education from New York University. Dr. Abramowitz has been a professor in the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science at Drew University since 1998. She has served as an Associate Editor and Social Media Editor of the Journal of Statistics and Data Science Education.
Research Interests
Educational statistics.
Selected Publications
- Weinberg, S., Harel, D., and Abramowitz, S. (2020). Statistics Using R: An Integrative Approach, Cambridge University Press.
- Weinberg, S. and Abramowitz, S. (2020). Statistics Using Stata: An Integrative Approach, 2nd Edition, Cambridge University Press.
- Weinberg, S. and Abramowitz, S. (2016). Statistics Using SPSS: An Integrative Approach 3rd Edition, Cambridge University Press.
ALEX DE VOOGT
PROFESSOR OF BUSINESS
Office: Faulkner House 8
Contact: [email protected] | (973) 408-4875
Courses taught
- Organizational Ethics (Business/Psychology)
- Strategic Decision Making (Business)
- Organizational Psychology and Leadership (Business/Psychology)
- Aviation Psychology and Management (Business/Psychology)
- Ancient Egypt and Sudan: Crossing Borders (Anthropology/Archaeology)
- Poetry Translation (English)
Alex de Voogt is a Professor at Drew University. He is a former curator of African Ethnology at the American Museum of Natural History, New York. Alex does research mainly in Organizational Psychology, Archaeology and Linguistics.
SELECTED PUBLICATIONS
Go-arounds accidents and General Aviation safety. Journal of Safety Research, doi: 10.1016/j.jsr.2022.06.008 with Hilary Kalagher, Brianna Santiago and Jonas Lang
Safety of twin-engine helicopters: risks and operational specificity. Safety Science 136, 105169. doi: 10.1016/j.ssci.2021.105169 with Elena St. Amour
Modeling consensus emergence in groups using longitudinal multilevel methods. Personnel Psychology 71(2): 255–281 with Jonas Lang and Paul Bliese
Work Ethic in a Japanese Museum Environment. A Case Study of the National Museum of Ethnology. Bulletin of the National Museum of Ethnology 42(4): 435–448 with Shimpei Ota
The role of graffiti game boards in the understanding of an archaeological site: The Gebel-el-Silsila quarries. Journal of Egyptian Archaeology 106(1-2): 123–132. doi: 10.1177/0307513320971302 with Maria Nilsson and John Ward
Cultural transmission in the Ancient Near East: Twenty squares and fifty-eight holes. Journal of Archaeological Science 40:1715–1730 with Anne-Elisabeth Dunn-Vaturi and Jelmer Eerkens
Sikujua’s writing of Muyaka’s poetry in Arabic script: versatility and creativity. Journal of Islamic Manuscripts 15(1): 5–20.
See also: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alex-de-Voogt | www.DariusatDrew.com | www.EgyptandSudanatdrew.com
STEVE FIRESTONE - ASSOCIATE CHAIR OF BUSINESS
ASSOCIATE TEACHING PROFESSOR, ASSOCIATE CHAIR – DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS
Office: Hall of Sciences, Room 336
Contact: [email protected]
- Financial Risk Management
- Financial Quantitative Analysis
- Financial Economics
- Behavioral Finance
- Derivatives
Research Interests: Financial Risk Management, Behavioral Finance, Real Estate Economics
Steve Firestone is an Associate Teaching Professor of Finance, the Associate Chair of the Business Department, and the Program Director of the Master of Science in Finance program, Accounting, and Finance at Drew University. His research focuses on market and credit risk, fixed income valuation, behavioral finance, and real estate economics. Steve previously served as a U.S. Treasury official in the Office of The Comptroller of the Currency, providing effective oversight of institutional trading and lending activities. His tenure in government service followed a twenty-year career in the financial markets as a fixed income trader, portfolio manager, and investment banker. Steve has also been committed to public service, having served on the Site Plan Review Advisory Board in Princeton, N.J., the Zoning Board of Adjustment in Hoboken, N.J. and both the Planning Commission and Zoning Board in Charlotte, N.C. He received a B.A. in Economics from Bucknell University, an M.B.A in Finance and Public Policy from Indiana University, and is working towards his Doctorate of Business Administration at Drexel University. Steve completed his Chartered Alternative Investment Analyst (CAIA) designation in 2009 and is active in the CAIA Association as a member of the Standards Committee. He also gets involved in the International Association for Quantitative Finance and serves on the Education Committee of the Commercial Real Estate Finance Council. Steve is also an avid runner, completing two TCS NYC Marathons.
QIQI LIANG
Contact: [email protected]
Qiqi Liang earned her Ph.D. in Finance at Old Dominion University. Before that, she received her Master of Science degree in Financial Risk Management from the University of Connecticut and her Bachelor of Economics with a concentration in Finance from the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing, China. Her research interests are in behavioral finance, asset pricing, retail investors, risk management, FinTech, and Market Data. She spends her free time immersed in yoga, skiing, travel, and savoring Chinese cuisine.
SEAN MOONEY
Contact: [email protected]
Sean is a Visiting Assistant Professor of Practice in Business at Drew and has over 30 years of experience building and leading Finance teams. Most recently, he served as CFO for Arcadia Consumer Healthcare, a private-equity-backed consumer products company. Prior to Arcadia, Sean’s career spanned 28 years at Merck & Co., Inc., where he held a variety of executive finance positions within both the pharmaceutical and consumer healthcare divisions. Prior to Merck, Sean was a database applications developer for AT&T Communications. Sean holds an M.B.A. in Finance and Information Systems from Cornell University and a B.S.B.A. in Computer Science from Seton Hall University. He also holds a Graduate Certification in Accounting and has completed the Certified Financial Planning curriculum at Fairleigh Dickinson University.
HAMED YOUSEFI
ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
Office: Gilbert House, Room 15
Contact: [email protected] | (973) 408-3804
Dr. Hamed Yousefi is Assistant Professor of Finance at Drew University. His research interests lie in the area of empirical asset pricing and Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs). Specifically, he studies the information embedded in the flow of ETFs, and also the interaction between the corporate risk-taking activities and various aspects of its industrial environment, such as pricing frictions.
Dr. Yousefi’s research has been published in multiple finance journals including International Review of Financial Analysis, Journal of Corporate Accounting & Finance, and International Review of Economics & Finance. Prior to joining Drew, Dr. Yousefi served as Visiting professor at Old Dominion University. He holds a Ph.D. in finance and a M.S. in Economics from Old Dominion University in Virginia, an MBA from University of Economic Sciences Tehran, Iran.
Dr. Yousefi is also involved in several professional finance associations including CFA society New York, and Financial Management Association (FMA) and continuously seeks to bridge the gap between academic finance and industry practices.
Outside the university, he is an avid angler and enjoys exploring the latest developments in digital technologies.
SELECTED PUBLICATIONS/WORKING PAPERS
- “From low resource slack to inflexibility: The share price effect of operational efficiency”
(with Kenneth Yung, Mohammad Najand) International Review of Financial Analysis – 2023 - “Geographical Diversification Using ETFs: Multinational Evidence from COVID-19 Pandemic)”
(with M. Najand) International Review of Financial Analysis – 2022 - “An ocean apart? The effects of US business cycles on Chinese business cycles”
(With J. Shen, D. Selover) International Review of Economics and Finance – 2022 - “Financial flexibility and economic policy uncertainty: Evidence from firm behavior and value”
(with K. Yung) Journal of Corporate Accounting and Finance – 2021 - “Strong alien or weak acquaintance? The effect of perceived institutional distance and cross-national uncertainty on ownership level in foreign acquisitions (2020)
(With F. Askarzadeh, and M. Forghani) Review of International Business and Strategy – 2020
COURSES TAUGHT
- Derivatives
- Investment
- International Financial Management
- Financial Decision Making (Case-Oriented Capstone)
- Introduction to Financial Management Using Bloomberg Terminal
KAREN CRISONINO
Karen Crisonino
Contact: [email protected]
Courses taught at Drew:
- Fundamentals of Financial Accounting
- Managerial Accounting
- Intermediate Accounting I
- Intermediate Accounting II
- Accounting and Accountability
- Auditing
- Fundamentals of Business
Karen Crisonino has a BS in Accounting, an MBA in Accounting and Taxation and a DBA.
Karen founded and ran Crisonino Consulting, an accounting consulting business for 20 years. Karen has held positions at other companies.
Karen has taught graduate and undergraduate courses at several universities. Karen has taught a wide variety of courses and has designed many courses.
She won the NISOD Award (National Institute for Staff and Organizational Development Teaching Excellence Award) and is listed in Who’s Who Among America’s Teachers.
Publications:
George Repic, Karen Crisonino (2016) “Entrepreneurial Spirit in the United States: Attitudes towards entrepreneurship: Survey of Students” Inovacije i preduzetnisvo – pokretaci razvoja i zaposljavanja Zbornik Radova Innovation and Entrepreneurship: Launchers of Development and Employment Proceedings
ISBN: 978-99-938-46-65-9
COBISS.RS-5824280
Valentina Vukmirovic, George Repic, Karen Crisonino (2017)
“Comparative Analysis of Entrepreneurial Spirit of Students and Need for Marketing Support “
Innovations and Entrepreneurship – Launchers of development and employment Proceedings
Inovacije I Preduzetnistvo –Pokretaci razvoja I Zaposljavanja
Zbornik Radova
ISBN 978-99938-46-67-3 COBISS.RS-ID 6526232
George Repic, Karen Crisonino, Zeljko Kovacevic (2018)
“A Comparative Analysis of the Entrepreneurship, and Development Differences in the United States Relative to the Baltic Region States”
Innovations and Entrepreneurship – Launchers of development and employment Proceedings
Inovacije I Preduzetnistvo –Pokretaci razvoja I Zaposljavanja
Zbornik Radova
ISBN 978-99938-46-76-5 COBISS.RS-ID 7337496
Vukmirović, Е., Repic, G., & Crisonino, K. (2021). The role of international marketing in the improvement of economic cooperation between the countries of the Western Balkans in crisis period. New Economist, 15(30), 44–63.
Vukmirović, E., Repic, G., & Crisonino, K. (2021). Increasing the effects foreign direct investments through orientation into new forms of entrepreneurship in Bosnia and Herzegovina. (English) Business Consultant / Poslovni Konsultant, 13(110), 48–60.
ROBERT DONNELLY
Author, educator, and brand builder for businesses and individuals. Professor Donnelly began his career as a senior executive with IBM, Pfizer, and EXXON, and then as the CEO of the U.S. subsidiaries of several foreign multinational technology firms. He also developed and delivered management education seminars for Business Week and Inc Magazines, domestically and internationally. He was featured in USA TODAY for his work with the Inc. 500.
Professor Donnelly also functions as a Venture Mentor and Entrepreneur-in-Residence at several University Venture Centers, as well as TechLaunch, a new technology mentoring organization. Currently, he is involved with Stevens Institute of Technology’s – Institute of Artificial Intelligence, as a Mentor working with faculty and students on new AI initiatives.
The author of four books on business and personal planning, Professor Donnelly is also a prolific writer and blogger on technology and “the changing nature of work” issues. He has developed graduate and undergraduate courses on “Personal Branding” and is well known for his proven techniques to help anyone survive and thrive in the new world of work.
Professor Donnelly also serves on the Board of Directors of several growing technology firms.
MARK HOSBEIN
Business Leadership & B2B Industry Executive.
During a career focused on business growth and sales & marketing leadership, Mark has had a portfolio of roles. After business school he spent eight years in brand management with roles at both Pepsi and Nabisco. Following that he became an early pioneer in online marketing at AOL, working in early day ad sales and monetization across CPG, auto and financial services. He expanded his media experience via roles at Time Warner and CNN, focusing on consumer marketing and client development. From media he moved to marketing analytics, spending five years leading a media effectiveness practice at Nielsen, where he introduced new products and services to financial services clients to optimize creative, spending and ROI. He also spent two years as SVP of brand and advertising for Discover Card just as the financial crisis was hitting.
For the last eight Mark worked at Accenture’s online agency, Accenture Interactive, helping establish and expand Accenture’s digital marketing services business around the globe. In that role he developed value propositions to appeal to key industries, created digital marketing programs working directly with clients, and developed large, integrated programs with key accounts. He worked in both North America and Europe, and during his last two years at Accenture was on assignment in Sydney Australia, helping build the practice in that market.
When Mark came back from Australia last July he shifted out of corporate America and into a boutique research and consulting firm, Magid Associates. He leads a practice focusing on primary research for mid-tier brands and businesses, delivering insights on customer journey, new products, brand health and advertising and communication effectiveness.
Mark has an undergraduate degree from Stanford University, and an MBA from Dartmouth’s Tuck School, and lives and works in the New York metro area.
MICHAEL HUSSAIN
Michael Hussain is an Adjunct Professor at Drew University. Michael has 30 years of experience across a variety of roles in the Financial Services industry. After graduating from the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) in 1992 with a degree in Economics, he began his career with Dean Witter Reynolds as an Account Executive specializing in investments, retirement, and estate planning. After 6 years he sold a $100MM book of business and went on to earn his MBA in Finance at the Indiana University Kelley School of Business in 2000. Michael served on the institutional sales and trading desks in New York for 12 years delivering research insights and corporate C-level access to hedge funds and mutual funds across the country for firms such as UBS, Janney Montgomery and ended his Institutional Sales & Trading career investing in with a start up research, sales and trading firm, Soleil Securities. He has re-established and re-built multiple regions, established a middle markets desk and was last in charge of the West Coast Region for sales and trading. He has extensive experience in sell side research, investments, trading, banking operations, IPO’s, secondary offerings in equity, preferred and fixed income securities, derivatives investing, risk and portfolio management. His extensive time on the institutional sales desks working with portfolio managers and hedge fund managers has given him insight into the inner workings of our modern financial markets. Having worked with firms private, public, having gone public and merged/acquired give him an added unique viewpoint on the management and and leadership in and around such events and across organizations.
For the last 9 years he has been employed with IHS Markit (under proposed Merger with S&P Global; expected to close in Q2’22) covering a variety of roles including Quantitative Models, Factors and Research Product Specialist, IHS Markit PMI Product Specialist, built out the vendor community for a new compliance and due diligence software solution (KY3P), and has most recently served as an Executive Director leading a US Client Success team for the Enterprise Data Management (EDM) software application & now serves as the Global Head of Private Capital Markets for the iLevel, Qval, Credit, and Full Service Valuations product lines within the Financial Services Solutions division.
Michael has previously co-founded a non-profit foundation raising funds for local cancer related charities and causes in San Diego and continues to volunteer his time and give to causes serving to alleviate children’s illnesses, promote animal welfare, and support for post action military related issues. Michael is currently on the Advisory Panel for the Managing a Remote Workforce program at the Pace University Lubin School of Business. He enjoys martial arts, is currently kick boxing (yellow belt), a licensed sky diver, and an avid student of self mastery, spirituality, self awareness, conscious based living as well as discovering, nurturing and promoting the inherent power that lies within each and every one of us as individuals.
MICHAEL MAHONEY
Michael Mahoney
Adjunct Professor
Office: Gilbert House, Room 22
Contact: [email protected] | (732) 241-2365
- Accounting Theory and Practice
- Intermediate Accounting I
- Managerial Accounting
- Fundamentals of Financial Accounting
Michael Mahoney is an Adjunct Professor of Business at Drew University. He taught accounting at Wagner College, for over ten years. He taught accounting to undergraduates and graduate students in the MS Accounting Program. He was also the Director of MBA Programs for five years. In 2016 he received the Exceptional Graduate Faculty Award for teaching excellence. Michael previously served for twenty years as the Senior Director of Investments reporting to the Trustees at The Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York City. He had both treasury and investment responsibilities pertaining to the Medical Center and the Medical School endowment. He holds CPA licenses from New Jersey and New York and is an IRS Tax Professional. His public accounting background includes auditing and tax compliance at both Deloitte LLP and Grant Thornton LLP. Michael is a member of the AICPA, New Jersey Society of CPAs, and is active in the Financial Executives International association in New York. His military service comprised of three years as an Ordnance Officer in the US Army, including a year with NATO forces in Germany. He holds a Master of Science in Accounting from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst (Betta Gamma Sigma), MBA Fairleigh Dickinson University and a BS in Business from the University of Dayton.
PUBLICATIONS
“Obviating the Moral Hazards that Caused the recent Banking Crisis and future Dislocations with Impositions of Regulations, Reserve Requirements, Revenue/Risk Adjusted Payouts”, The Journal for Business and Finance Research 8(1) 2017.
Michael Mahoney, Donald Crooks, Cathyann Tully, Edward Strafaci
“The Ramifications of Reinstating the Repealed Sections of the Glass-Steagall Act and the Moral Hazards that Caused the Banking Crisis”, The International Journal of Business and Applied Science 4(2) 2015.
Michael Mahoney, Donald Crooks, Cathyann Tully
ANN MILLS
Ann Mills is an Adjunct Assistant Professor in Business Studies where she teaches digital marketing and entrepreneurship.
She founded the Resourceful Business in 2010, a full-service digital marketing agency that works with clients in the United States and abroad. The agency services customers in the areas of website development, content strategy, social media, digital ads, and email management. In 2023, the firm was named a top social media management services company by MarTech Outlook.
Prior to her digital marketing career, Ann spent 13 years on Wall Street as an International Equity Trader at Morgan Stanley in New York and London, Head of International Equity Trading at Merrill Lynch in London, and Global Head of Trading for ABN Amro’s investment bank. She was also the owner of a retail business in Summit, NJ, where prior to its sale, she grew revenue by 30% over 5 ½ years.
While pursuing her MA in Econometrics from the University of Pittsburgh, Ann was named an H.B. Earhart Fellow for scholarly potential in the field of economics. She was also an undergraduate Chancellor Scholar while at the University of Pittsburgh, a designation given to approximately 15 incoming freshmen.
Education
MBA, Finance, University of Chicago, 1987
MA, Econometrics, University of Pittsburgh, 1985
BA, Economics, University of Pittsburgh, 1985
JOHN NOLAN
Mr. Nolan is a co-founder of Octaviant Financial and currently serves as the firm’s Chief Investment & Science Officer. Before his charge with Octaviant, he was a Managing Director and Portfolio Manager of the WBB Life Sciences Long/Short portfolio—a fund dedicated to investing in early-stage life science companies—at WBB Asset Management, a division of WBB Securities, LLC.
Prior to WBB, Mr. Nolan led a quantitative investment research team at JPMorgan Asset Management and worked in fund’s research at Barclays Wealth. In addition to his time on Wall Street, Mr. Nolan spent several years as a researcher and epidemiologist at various medical institutions including the University of Pennsylvania and New York University. He has been published in peer reviewed journals on topics ranging from environmental toxicology to hepatitis B infection in children.
Mr. Nolan holds a MPH degree from Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, a bachelor’s degree in Physics from Cornell University and is an Adjunct Professor of Finance at the Drew University Caspersen School of Graduate Studies. He is Series 7, 63, and 65 licensed.
JOY PALMER
Joy Palmer is a finance and accounting professional with over 30 years of experience, primarily in the financial services industry. She currently serves on the Board of Directors of Dynex Capital, Inc. (DX) as the Audit Chair. She retired from the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)) in 2020, where she was the Deputy Chief Accountant. While at the OCC, she previously served in various positions over her 17+ years including as the Senior Accounting Policy Advisor to Large Banks and the Western District Accountant. At the OCC, Joy became a subject matter expert in GAAP and regulatory policies. Prior to that time, Joy was a Director in Equity Research at Merrill Lynch, where she was responsible for analyzing the financial statements and making investment recommendations to institutional investors in the specialty finance sector. Joy has also been a Controller and Director of Finance at other public companies during her career.
Joy also taught accounting and personal finance courses at Diablo Valley College in California.
Joy holds an MBA, concentration in Finance from New York University, Stern School of Business as well as her Bachelor of Science from Montclair State University.
ANNE MARIE ROBERTSON
Anne Marie Robertson is an adjunct professor of Marketing with more than 20 years of brand strategy and commercialization experience in the pharmaceutical industry. Anne Marie has a successful track record of product launches both in the US and globally. Anne Marie is an Executive Vice President at EVERSANA, a health care commercialization consultancy and has worked in leadership roles in Marketing in large pharma (BMS and Pfizer) as well as Biotech( ImClone and Ipsen). She has experience in non-profit board service, CancerCare’s New Jersey Board of Managers, and on a private board, ONS Edge. Anne Marie started her career in a biotech laboratory and taught in Central Africa as a member of the US Peace Corps.
STEVEN JOHN "SJ" SCANSAROLI
Steven John “SJ” Scansaroli
Contact: [email protected]
Courses Taught at Drew:
New Venture Finance
Management
Mr. Scansaroli specializes in finance, healthcare, and strategy with an emphasis on organizational development.
He is CEO and MD of Elcat, a Private Equity firm, and the Vetrinox Equine Institute which specializes in the aggregation and arbitrage opportunities in select healthcare settings. Previous to his current role, Mr. Scansaroli was the creator and one of four principals of an initiative named “Motion is Medicine” which concentrated on the integration of various healthcare entities including turnaround situations, the continuum of care, and value creation leading to Blackstone divesting its longest-held portfolio company to Colfax for over $1B in a highly profitable transaction. He also held senior roles at Stryker Orthopedics where he was a worldwide speaker on various healthcare topics and was the recipient of numerous awards.
Mr. Scansaroli was named Valedictorian at New York University’s prestigious Stern School of Business for his MBA earning three majors: Finance, Strategy, and Healthcare. Additionally, he holds from the University of Scranton a MS in Human Resources and Organization Development including a thesis and dissertation entitled “Generation X and Their Effect on Business”, and a BA from Drew University with a concentration in Behavioral Science and Economics. He was awarded the Alan Ware Rodes Memorial Award at Drew for his academic performance.
Mr. Scansaroli is an active philanthropist in many areas but has a significant passion for assisting causes including women’s ice hockey, animal rights, and consulting with young entrepreneurs to help their dreams become a reality.
Lastly, Mr Scansaroli is also the Head Ice Hockey Coach at Drew University.
DOUGLAS SCHNELLER
Doug Schneller is a partner in the New York City office of international law firm Rimon, P.C. His legal practice focuses on complex lending, finance, insolvency/bankruptcy and distressed investing transactional matters on behalf of US and international bank and non-bank lenders, hedge funds and financial institutions, as well as a variety of corporate clients.
Prior to joining Rimon in 2017, Doug was a partner at several prominent AmLaw 100 law firms in New York and in London. Doug is also a member of industry organizations, including The Loan Syndications and Trading Association and the American Bankruptcy Institute. He obtained his J.D. from New York University School of Law (Order of the Coif).
MARGARET WELLS
Maggie has built her business development career on the cutting edge of technology and has been launching products and companies in media and advertising for over twenty years.
She has been teaching marketing since 2004 at universities across the country including NYU, Fordham, Bentley, Northeastern, Boston College and Rice University.
Her previous roles include VP Publisher Solutions for Connatix Native Exchange, Senior Vice President of Marketing for Digilant, Global Marketing & Operations Head at The Economist Group and CEO of HomePortfolio.
Maggie graduated with distinction from the University of Rochester with a BS in Mechanical Engineering and received her MBA from the University of Chicago with concentrations in Finance, Marketing and Economics.
KAREM YAMAN
Kerem Yaman is currently the COO, CDO, and the head of Portfolio Risk Management at Morgan Stanley’s Market Risk department. He has previously served as global head of market risk for various areas including credit trading, rates trading, emerging markets, municipal markets, prime brokerage and clearing at top US investment banks. Kerem was in charge of Regulatory Management for market risk in the past, and is now leading major regulatory/capital implementation initiatives at Morgan Stanley’s market risk department.
Kerem started his career in Wall Street in 1997 as a derivatives trader in emerging markets, and became the head of the emerging markets derivatives desk at Citigroup, Prior to switching to risk management, he spent time on the buy side trading an emerging markets strategy,
Kerem has a BA in physics and mathematics from the University of Pennsylvania, and a PhD in theoretical physics from the University of California at Santa Barbara. He is an avid practitioner of Aikido, plays guitar, and enjoys skiing.